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Pittsburgh BYOB gathering - Round 7

 
Author Hawk
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#1  Posted: Mar 4, 2010 05:23  

I'm targeting Friday, March 26 for Round 7. Let me know if that works.

Location not yet determined, but I'm focusing on a restaurant that has a separate room for us. That really worked well at the Palazzo Ristorante.

I'd like to focus on "Rhone Style" wines.

We could do "Southern" Rhones, like Ch. du Pape, Cotes du Rhone & Gigondas. Southern Rhones can use any of the 13 permitted grapes, but usually are Grenache or Syrah dominant. There are great wines from all over the world that fit the category.

OR

We could do "Northern" Rhone, which is 100% Syrah. Also great wines from all over.

OR

We could do both regions.

Your thoughts are appreciated.
Author dontime
Contributor
#2  Posted: Mar 4, 2010 08:12  

The 26th work for me - I believe it would be 2, but need to check with the better half.

I still have a lot to learn about French wines, so either focus would be appealing. Not sure I have too many of either southern or northern Rhones in my cellar, but it would be fun to track something down to bring.

Thanks for setting this one up Hawk!

dontime
Author jonradus
Registered User
#3  Posted: Mar 4, 2010 08:39  

Is the tasting going to be confined to just French or will it be Rhone-style wines from across the world? I'm game either way and I'm good for two on that date.
Author Mark
Contributor
#4  Posted: Mar 4, 2010 09:07  

I would vote for Southern Rhone, or Rhone valley in general, as those wines make up the largest part of my collection. My biggest challenge would be deciding which Chateauneuf-du-Pape to bring! Definitely in for that date -- one and maybe two -- wherever it may be held.
Author bigred
Registered User
#5  Posted: Mar 4, 2010 12:36  

This sounds great. It looks like the 26th is good for me, and hopefully the Mrs.
I would also vote for sticking with the actual Rhone Region, combining both northern and southern. Look forward to the experience.
Author tonypoli
Registered User
#6  Posted: Mar 4, 2010 15:31  

I am travelling on the 26th, Hawk. Sorry, will not be able to make it. And I love Rhones and Rhone style wines. Someone should bring a Gigondas, and see how it stacks up against the Chateauneuf-du-Pape's that show up.
Author J2K
Registered User
#7  Posted: Mar 5, 2010 18:14  

That weekend is not looking good for me.
Author jlburd
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#8  Posted: Mar 5, 2010 19:56  

26th works for me. How far back to get a CdP or Gigondas that's drinking well right now? My cellar is weak in Frenchies in general & Rhone specifically
Author bigred
Registered User
#9  Posted: Mar 5, 2010 21:06  

Confirming 1 for the 26th. Wife will be out on the west coast that week. If we decide on the Rhone region, I'll likely bring in a northern selection that I found particularly appealing a while back.
Author Mark
Contributor
#10  Posted: Mar 6, 2010 21:13  

Opened up a nice middle-of-the-road '05 Gigondas tonight with dinner, was $20 on sale, very enjoyable thank you very much. The heavier duty '05s and later probably haven't peaked yet.

BTW there's a great website which covers Rhone wines, http://www.therhonereport.com/ worth checking out.
Author dontime
Contributor
#11  Posted: Mar 10, 2010 11:50  

Good for two on the 26th.

Hawk - did you want to do this one blind or not? Just curious.

Are we set on the Rhone region or is it Rhone style juice from anywhere?
Author jonradus
Registered User
#12  Posted: Mar 10, 2010 12:00  

I vote for blind, and I vote for only Rhone region wines.

Oh yeah, I was thinking about something the other day. If we do a blind tasting, we should all take the entire foil off the top. I noticed in Round 5, some of the bottles foils were just trimmed around the top. Also, we should all try to use state store bags. Last time I used regular bags instead of state store bags, and I could tell the difference. Just some food for thought.

I was just wondering if you (Hawk) found a venue and set up a time for this tasting yet?
Author bigred
Registered User
#13  Posted: Mar 10, 2010 20:54  

I'll go with the majority, but thought it might be nice to do a straight (non-blind) tasting this round. Thought it might be neat to try some samplings of the same region (northern or southern), compare and contrast, then do the other region, or something of that nature. Also, when there are many wines to rotate in a blind tasting, it can feel rushed at times, making sure you sample quickly and pass them on, not being able to "savor" a favorite with the meal.
Anyway, just a thought – I'm fine either way, as the WINE is the common denominator.
Author jonradus
Registered User
#14  Posted: Mar 10, 2010 21:13 | Edited by: jonradus  

You're right about "feeling rushed" during the blind tastings. It may be a prudent idea to do it open this time.
Author Hawk
Registered User
#15  Posted: Mar 17, 2010 13:26  

It looks like the consensus is for just Rhone wines, but both north and south.

A quick primer for those who are not that familiar with the Rhone region.
Northern Rhone wines are syrah Syrah (an addition of up to 15% of Marsanne or Roussanne is allowed).
Southern Rhone wines are usually a blend consisting of two or more of the traditional 13 Southern Rhone grape varieties. Typically it's the Grenache, Syrah, Mourvedre or Cinsault grapes, but can also contain the Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan or Vaccarese grapes.

We'll go again with a "blind" tasting, however, I think we'll try to do the wines in "flights" so that we don't feel rushed. If everyone can tell me either "north" or "south" and the appellation, e.g. Cotes du Rhone, CdPape, Gigondas, etc. , I will group the wines from the same areas. I suspect 4-6 wines in each flight would work.

As to location, I've been having a little trouble getting the restaurants to waive the corkage fee (usually $12 to $15 per bottle). I got the Bigelow Grill to reduce their corkage fee to $5 per bottle which seems reasonable.

Give me your thoughts on a corkage fee. If you don't want to pay it, I'll find a restaurant that doesn't have one.
Author jonradus
Registered User
#16  Posted: Mar 17, 2010 14:28 | Edited by: jonradus  

I'm good with a $5 corkage fee. But, any more and we'll end up paying a fortune to do this tasting. Bigelow Grillle sounds pretty good to me also.

I'll bring a Chateauneuf du Pape and a Cote Rotie.
Author Mark
Contributor
#17  Posted: Mar 17, 2010 15:25  

I'm fine with $5/btl corkage.

I'll be bringing a Chateauneuf-du-Pape.
Author bigred
Registered User
#18  Posted: Mar 17, 2010 21:27  

Sounds good Hawk; no problem with $5 corkage. Bigelow looks great.
I'll be bringing a Coteaux du Languedoc
Author dontime
Contributor
#19  Posted: Mar 21, 2010 15:20  

Okay with the corkage.
I plan to bring a Chateauneuf du Pape and a Gigondas.
Author J2K
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#20  Posted: Mar 21, 2010 18:06  

I think I can make it. Plan on bringing something from Cornas -2000 vintage.
Author Hawk
Registered User
#21  Posted: Mar 22, 2010 01:15  

Looks like we'll have a good turnout.

We're set for Friday, March 26 at the Bigelow Grill at 6:30PM. The Bigelow is Downtown in the DoubleTree Hotel at Ross Street (behind the USX Tower).

Try to let me know your count by Wednesday so that I can confirm with the restaurant.
Author jonradus
Registered User
#22  Posted: Mar 22, 2010 12:46  

I'm in for two.
Author dontime
Contributor
#23  Posted: Mar 22, 2010 16:10  

I'm in for two also.
Author ecola
Registered User
#24  Posted: Mar 22, 2010 20:01  

I'm in for 3. I'll bring a Valle Vista CDP.
Author bigred
Registered User
#25  Posted: Mar 22, 2010 20:37  

I will be coming solo for this one. ecola, I may have to fight you for that treasured VV.
Author J2K
Registered User
#26  Posted: Mar 23, 2010 17:35  

I'm Han Solo also
Author ecola
Registered User
#27  Posted: Mar 23, 2010 23:47  

I'm in for two, not three as I said before.
Author Mark
Contributor
#28  Posted: Mar 24, 2010 10:28  

Me solo also
Author dontime
Contributor
#29  Posted: Mar 24, 2010 22:10  

Hawk - do you want the appellation written on the bag?
Author Hawk
Registered User
#30  Posted: Mar 25, 2010 14:01  

No just tell me when you get there & I'll group the wines.

Here's what I have for the count:

Ecola -2
Dontime - 2
Mark - 1
J2K - 1
Big Red - 1
Jonradus - 2
Hawk - 5
Total - 14

Any others?
 
 
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