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obsessed with age

 
Author timo
Registered User
#1  Posted: Oct 18, 2009 13:29  

Found myself staring at my wines - a fairly humble family of about 200 bottles - and not wanting to drink anything. Because I keep thinking "these will be better in (2yrs, 5yrs, 10yrs)". I can start buying more wines that are supposed to be drunk young - and I do like quite a few of these types - but I really want to drink 10 yr old CdP, cabernet, bordeaux & burgundy too. Is there a way (reasonably) buy age? Or are there wines that emulate these qualities?
Author Mark
Contributor
#2  Posted: Oct 18, 2009 15:56  

Yeah Timo I've found myself in that same boat. I regularly receive e-mail offers from various out of state peddlers pitching older wines. Most of their "deals" are for current releases but it's not uncommon that they are talking up 10+ year old wines, almost always claimed to be "straight from the winery." How honest these claims are I cannot say. Prices are often less than one might expect considering the age. i.e. 1998 CDPs for around the same price as current releases. Of course back in 1998 the wine sold for considerably less. The CS program occasionally offers older wines as well, but only occasionally. Then there's always the auction route. Some stores run their own auctions, separate from the big auction houses. I've never tried winebid etc as I don't think they'd ship here and the idea of buying vintage wine -- or almost any wine -- from the equivalent of eBay seems kinda iffy. Maybe if you buy a current release and run it through a venturi aerator lots and lots of times it'll be just like aging it?!?
Author jlburd
Registered User
#3  Posted: Oct 18, 2009 20:23  

There's really no sure way to do it except buy & be patient, then buy some more to drink. One observation: for whatever reason the Cal/Ore/Wa wines seem generally more approachable (and still complex) at a younger age. Perhaps the solution is buy American now & age the Euro wines at home. Buying 10+ from a store poses risk for storage etc. but keeping whatever '04 or '06 French or Italians in the cellar for a decade while you drink Napa '06 Cab or Central Coast '07 Pinot isn't a bad compromise.

Also, the effect of the recent climate conditions is a whole bunch of good to great vintages this decade, so you have a broader variety to choose from the drinkable wines (don't forget the Aussies & S. Americans that also produce for younger consumption). Put the '05's away & whatever else you can get ahold of & explore all the rest. It also helps if you can find a couple of friends who have been cellaring for a decade...
Author Capaneus
Contributor
#4  Posted: Oct 19, 2009 13:41  

Auction. Just picked up a half-case of '93 BV Latour Reserve - for $22.50/btl. Also some eiswein from the last century, for a fraction of what a new release would have cost.

There is some risk: some time ago I picked up a few bottles each of awful Burg and Bordeaux. On the other hand, I only paid $10+premium+shipping for those, so the pain was not acute. Recently, I've found myself picking up smaller lots of better wines, and that seems to be a much better bet.

And if you're a good boy, I might bring some of the BV to the next shindig.
Author J2K
Registered User
#5  Posted: Oct 23, 2009 16:19  

timo,
Have you ever drank older wines? There are some people who don't like the characteristics of an aged wine and prefer their wines young. Of course, the only way to know is to drink them and find what you prefer.
Most older vintages will come with a premium price considering a wine shop has been storing them for years and that comes with a cost (electricity, storage space etc). Not sure where you live or if you can get them shipped but you can also try
www.wine-searcher.com
But before you store your wines for 10+ years or spend a lot of cabbage on older vintages, I would try to taste a few older ones, you may like your wines with only 5 years of age. It's all subjective....and fun :-)
 
 
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